Chuck Yates Needs A Job

0:24 So most of the stuff we, this building obviously was built on top of

0:30 remnants of the post office and the telegraph office, which during 1942, on the bombing of Darwin, we had more bombs fall here in the bombing of Darwin than Phil and Pearl Harbor. And that's so

0:44 crazy, I didn't even know that until I got here. I know, I didn't know if I was here for 30 years and it took me 20 years to learn those the thing and you go, one of the things we don't do well

0:53 here in Australia is tell a story and we should because we don't record some of the great stories of

0:60 people who first came to these parts of the land and engaged whether it was the Chinese coming down from the north or whether it was like me, the 10 pound palms who arrived from Europe and first

1:12 engaged with Aboriginal people on this land and learnt their story and learnt how to do that and how to survive this land because as you know we're in winter at the moment, gets a lot day and if

1:25 you're out wandering this land in the middle of the day you realize how harsh it is to to try and survive so my best friend when I told him going over to Australia he's can he's texting me pictures of

1:38 different poisonous snakes every day he's like you know I think they got five out of the top ten in the world they do avoid this dude and one of the other things we do and is it's not just a snake

1:51 that's it I said we've got every level of animal that can kill you up here and and one of the worst things that actually causes you a great day the one of the midges that actually you can't see they

2:02 but they bite you and they just love this virgin tourist skin so you end up with wilts all over you and it's itchy as hell so whether you're going into the water and the crocodiles are going to eat

2:14 you or the sharks are going to eat you or the stonefish you got it there is many many things here that you need to be aware of at doable it's

2:23 So, this is the remnants of the telegraph office. We were left with a wall here, 'cause as you can imagine, with that many bombs falling on the territory, and

2:37 10 of them didn't explode. So, only last week, we're digging up, building a Larrick here, cultural center, and the construction guys dug up a bomb. No way. And a bomber, but this big, they

2:50 had to call the army in and explode it there and then. That's crazy. That's crazy stuff, so. And here's a bit of the shrapnel that was found, was we're digging for the parliament house to build

3:01 this place. I think I told you this last night at dinner, but I've been dating Lee for a little over a couple years. She's from London, and so I've been spending a lot of time in London. And I

3:13 did not appreciate this until she told me. I mean, you're walking along, and it's old building, old building, modern building, That's where a bomb hit. That's where a bomb hit. Yeah,

3:22 absolutely, yeah. And her name, her grandmother, I forget which is the bottom line, the Piccadilly line, or whatever it is. Like you used to teach her that. When the bonds go, you go to the

3:35 Victorian line, or whichever one's the deepest, I mean. Absolutely, it's crazy. And certainly my parents, we were born in Scotland. My parents, as young kids, were living through that. And

3:48 it's just amazing what they, I lived in Normandy for six months And you go there, the first floor above it. So you think, oh, these are beautiful new buildings.

3:60 Up to floor one is just peppered with bullet holes. Because they were all bomb. They all lost the second, third floors. And they rebuilt them on top of it. But the first floor, which we've

4:11 remained standing, is just peppered with all these bullet holes, wherever you go in Normandy. So it shows you the absolute blitz that went on at that time. re-experienced that

4:24 here, you go through Australia and you ask people down south because it was government policy at the time to basically not talk about it, to not talk about the bombing of Darwin because they felt

4:34 that would give an unfair advantage to the Japanese about thinking that, oh, you're actually having an impact. So it was what from official record for a long time. And the only thing growing up

4:44 when I was in school here in Hobart, so I moved from Hobart but 30 years ago up

4:51 here, everything we heard was there was a midget subcaring to Sydney Harbour, and that was it. And you come up here and you realise what actually happened. And the place right across from Broome,

5:04 right across to Tansville, including Darwin, had the Bajibas bombed out of it. So, yeah. And we were talking about this last night too. I mean, with all the of things going on in China. They

5:19 decided to move on Taiwan. Good grief, who knows what happened? Darwin's gonna be strategic again. I mean, y'all are our best ally in the world. Absolutely. And that's why absolutely is

5:31 critical that we get our critical minerals out of the ground here. We have currently 18 of the top 22

5:42 that are ready to pull out of the ground. Those critical minerals are gonna be building our armaments, they're building our technologies within the computer systems that our defences need to ensure

5:53 that we have got the capability of going forward or defending, we need to, or because at the moment, those critical minerals are controlled by China. And it's really the case of, as far as their

6:08 concern, if they probably don't have to get a war, they just have to turn off the tap of supply. No, that's exactly right. And one of the great things, again, from here, with Beadahly Basin

6:20 and gas. is we actually have massive reserves of gas that will power those mines to get an underground quickly and at a very reasonable cost as far as their energy because we, globally, it's like

6:36 America, you can't compete globally on a cost of a workforce because we pay our people very well, but you can compete on energy and here in the territory where there's beat alone So one other

6:50 element that's important to that that I know you know,

6:54 because we talk about this too, it's mining the minerals and then processing them. Processing. Absolutely. Because China's got 95 of the processing capability of all this stuff. Exactly. And

7:05 anytime you start talking about it, people are like, Oh, not in my backyard. But it is so essential that we process too. And part of that processing is, I don't like talking about politics for a

7:18 sake, but I will amount because it's really important the parameters around which you enable companies to do that, you have advantages for them in a sense of if you lift it out of the ground and you

7:32 have some downstream processing, will a tax regime will drop significantly. So you want to encourage them to do that here. And the biggest encouragement is that it's costing you less to pull it out

7:44 of the ground than it would at anywhere else. You're in a secure environment like a first world that's not going to fall over next week with someone taking out that's not aligned, that's not going

7:56 to come along to your mind and say we're now taking this back, we know how this, you're giving some certainty, there's some security there to the people, but you're also giving them the

8:04 opportunity to do that downstream manufacturing and value add to basically the security of the whole region. In the United States where we are right now is we've got so much natural gas that we're

8:19 starting to tell natural gas companies, about selling electrons. You know, do you generate power, put it on the grid? Do you Bitcoin mind? Do you co-locate with their computer,

8:31 you know, cloud data center? So yeah, y'all can have all those type of fun things too with all the cheap gas. And the advantage of that, and again, I'm not sure if you're aware, we've just

8:40 bought a cable on from from America, the data cable, to supply the another way around the Southeast Asia perimeter. So we actually will have the fastest connection of any place in Australia to

8:53 Singapore. Oh, wow. And that means where where the data centers want to be, whether there's there to do with defense or whatever. And we've already talked, I think they announced yesterday, the

9:05 day before federally Amazon have already done a deal with the federal government about storing all their defense stuff. Those data industries that are generated by when you click go on your computer,

9:20 The energy required to do that as well is that when you get up to the more AI environments where there's a greater demand for the MG to run, that's not going to increase. So where do they want to be?

9:32 The places are fastest, the connection to their destination. So we've already seen companies come here and build data centers. That's another sector You bring in the sector and the byproduct of

9:49 that is construction, infrastructure, restaurants, schools, people, the whole thing. So the house of the little neighborhoods. And they're all interconnected, that are all driven by energy.

10:03 So the backbone for all of us, whether it's the energy or the mining here, is to ensure we get it as we go into this market, to the downstream manufacturers, to the sector that consumes it, and

10:14 will be increasingly consuming it for our own. geolocation security. No, it's gonna be, it's gonna be cool. Yeah, it's amazing what like cheap energy can do. Yeah, absolutely. Oh, don't

10:29 stand on the time capsule. Sorry. So this is the time capsule. This is gonna be dug up in our 100th year anniversary. It'll be dug up and we'll see examples of what people like Nick Dondis, who's

10:43 the honor of the honor of the honor. That was my last note. And listening to you last night, there is no better term for you. I reckon I think you need to go back and I think the whole of the

10:52 nation in America needs to be talking about the honorable Chuck. I'll talk to the governor

11:03 All of the past speakers are up there, so my big mug girl was past speakers, so my big mug will go on one of those panels eventually when I sit there and have somebody paint me.

11:14 So the speaker is

11:17 elected how? By the chamber? Okay, so they're elected by the chamber, but as you know, everything in politics is about numbers. Right, so when the government's got the numbers, they'll elect

11:28 somebody that they believe because they've got the numbers too They don't rule it right. And as Speaker can still vote, that's up to them whether they choose to vote, but they can. So the

11:39 government needs the numbers, they say half of them are sick one day, and there's a major vote on the Speaker can vote for the government, which

11:47 is definitely not the same in every jurisdiction across the world, but certainly here, the Speaker makes those rules. They run on a thing called standing orders. So this place runs on a standing

11:57 orders, and standing order number one is the Speaker's So,

12:03 I get that. So this is a coat of arms. The top there, you've got the wedge tail eagle, which is a territory bird. They've obviously got the kangaroos, which - We saw some. You saw some? When

12:15 we were driving back from Elliot. Have you eaten some? We did. You did? We had the daily waters pub. There you go. We ordered a kangaroo. Did you go skippy? Oh, you need to Google skippy.

12:25 Skippy's our famous kangaroo in Australia. Oh, and I ate him, oops. And now we all eat him Well, they're on our coat of arms, so they're free. You also see, it's probably a bit hard to make

12:36 out, but below in the actual armbit is a Mimi spirit. So it's an Aboriginal spirit. It's to do with the spirituality of a lot of Northern Australian, particularly coastal Aboriginal groups.

12:50 There's a number of them have the Mimi spirits who's, when families tell story growing up, whether it was esops, fables or whatever, they all had a message for kids.

13:02 Aboriginal communities talk about the Mimi spirits to their kids, so it connects them to the land, but it also has an element of you do something wrong, you love the Mimi spirits or be part of

13:16 making sure you're every parent on the planet no matter what needs something to scare you. Absolutely. Absolutely. Right. So over here on the ground here, again, you've got to be careful when

13:29 you walk on the ground here because you just never, this is where the bomb dropped. Oh, wow. And so as you can see, it says 10 people killed. Where is it? There was nine. There was nine across

13:41 there. That's what we love about the territory. My dad is a big stamp collector and he has a bunch of Russian stamps, Soviet Union stamps, and they'll have the stamp And then when they make the

13:54 same stamp a year later, somebody's gone.

13:60 So off shore here.

14:02 There's a place called the Tiwi Islands. It's about 80 kilometers offshore. And that's the first people worn down because as these planes are coming in, the Japanese planes are coming in, they're

14:14 looking at the moorings, they're looking into the sun. So they didn't know if it was returning Australian planes or whatever, they didn't, but

14:29 the Tiwi Islanders on Tiwi Islands were there on their thing saying, they've just gone across, these are Japanese bombs, so the earliest mooring they got was when they're ready to come on, and

14:32 it's about 15, well, 15 minute flight. So that's the first warning they got, that it was enemies. And the other lovely story, but that is one of the planes that was hit, was heading back,

14:48 crashed on Tiwi Islands, and one of the local Tiwi guys, one of the traditional owners that he has known, but he's now passed, but one of those guys, This fellow, this Japanese, is.

15:02 was wandering through the the the mangroves over there and they had no guns and stuff but he's grabbed a stick and he's come up behind him and said hands up.

15:14 He was the first POW for Australia caught because one of the original guys put a stick in the back of his head and he thought it was a rival. Yeah so it's great stories. It's awesome. Yeah and if

15:25 we we walk out this is the speaker's green so we do a lot of functions here but the when they were building this place obviously the history of the bombing of Darwin was prevalent but there was also

15:37 another

15:40 we also put this in because when they're building it there was two cranes being used and they overbalanced and killed fell and killed two two workers so this is the the remembrance for them memorial

15:53 yeah

15:56 it's uh so these are the two guys oh wow yeah and that again is the desert rose, which is that. So you see it right across the place. And then around the edge, you've got every parliament, every

16:11 assembly, we call them assemblies, that since we cooked there are all listed all around there. So just in terms of year, when was the first one? First parliament? Yeah. So we're coming up for a

16:22 30 year anniversary in November. Oh, August, August. Okay. So it's only a brand new building So it's very much built with territory

16:35 challenges in mind. So if you have a look at the actual building itself, you see a lot of the big veranda, obviously to help with the cooling. The office buildings are in behind it, but there's

16:47 also this stuff here on the outside to protect us from cyclone. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Those cyclones batter this, the building is actually protected by the exterior. I'm a Houston, Texas boy, and we

16:58 get hurricanes. Hurricanes. We got 'em, hurricanes. Yeah,

17:02 yeah, yeah. And Darwin,

17:09 in 1975, Christmas, at Christmas Eve, cyclone Tracey went through this place and completely flattened it, killed about 60 people. Most people, including

17:20 families that I, my wife, wife, was in her mother's womb at the time, six months pregnant, she was And their, their house was destroyed, their stairs that narrow on the first floor, she had to

17:31 jump off, very romantic, had to jump off the building into the father's arms. I don't know why. Six months pregnant. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh wow, that was crazy. Yeah. So, and the other thing

17:42 that we do, when they built this for the design, they see the corners. Right, yeah. Pillars, that's a bomb. See how it's. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. That's owed to the bombs falling on down So

17:53 every corner has one of those. Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah.

17:59 Yeah, we might go upstairs if you like, more or two, my office is - I'm having a great time, I'll hang out all day. So, you know, kick me out whenever. Oh, this is the speaker's private green.

18:11 So, when I used to be speaker, so you'd invite people there, but no one else can access, like having your own private gown. That was so cool. So, part of our assembly as well is that, so we're

18:23 at the back of the assembly. Okay. The building was built for two parliamentary cases, the upper house, which we call the Senate, and the lower house, we don't have, we're unique, we don't

18:34 have an upper house yet, because we're a territory non-state. Okay. Some state, well, one state, Queensland, has got rid of its upper house. Probably went to many politicians, we don't need

18:46 it. So, they got rid of one. We've got the space where we were over at the library. If we want to, if we become a state and we want to have a second, we can, but it's just a mirror image.

18:59 25, 25, so it's a very small parliament, as you can imagine. Well, you only had 250, 000 people on the track. And one of the things about when you get complaints through ministers offices,

19:15 you generally don't, you actually know the complaint before it comes in because you've met the person in the supermarket the weekend, so. One of my best friends moved back home after school and he

19:30 was in Rial County, which is kind of West Texas and it only has 3, 000 residents. And he became the county judge and we were sitting there talking about crime. He goes, ah, we have just as much

19:41 crime as you do in Houston. We just know who did it. That was exactly right. Yeah, yeah. And Bob did that again. And he's over there, go and get it, go there. So this is the deputy speaker,

19:54 that's their office And then this is how she found this, the coolest one. This is what the office for either

20:03 the mother or the father of the house. So that's generally the person that's been in this seat longest in the parliament. And hello, Paul, oh yeah, yeah, good man. And they

20:17 say it's generally the oldest person who's been in that. So they've been in 16 years, like four terms. They get the closest one to the chamber 'cause they get a bit old. 'Cause

20:27 they're the ones But they're called the mother or the father of parliament. Oh, that's great. So this lady is just about to finish 'cause she's been there for 16 years. Then you have the deputy,

20:37 sorry, the government whip who controls all the government side. And then you come around into an opposition area. And these are all the opposition leaders over the years. That room in there, you

20:51 see, there's a - Oh, yeah. That's the jail. The jail, so the speaker has the power to send someone to Jia and. so they can throw them in there. No police officer can come and get them unless

21:03 the speaker says. So it's a lot, so they can rot in there. We've never had it. In fact, the last time I looked in there, all the security people have all their coffee and microwave simply. But

21:13 it's literally a jail. It's got a heavy door, the whole thing. So

21:19 I may or may not have spent a night in the jail in Minute Maid Park where the Houston Astros play So this is basically all the parliamentary offices, predominantly all the backbenchers are in here.

21:35 They all have the little offices are going to take and then you have the minister's offices which are through here. So no one really can get in there unless a minister brings in or they start. So

21:46 this is where we had Brian up yesterday. So how does the territory government, parliament interact with the federal government? We have negotiations and talk to them all the time. Particular

21:60 issues that they are responsible so say for instance to the gas and the national environment We are constantly saying you need to come out and be supporting us or you need to be funding some of these

22:11 things like as you Can imagine our road network? Yeah, 250, 000 people if we had to bitchimize the whole rights here We just wouldn't have that money and that's it. It's funny when Brian. I

22:24 didn't say to him last night, but I he mentioned that Really his view is that will be a four-lane highway down and I'm like

22:34 That's that and that's that real perspective I think of the houston and the those sort of places that I've got these massive highways that because we've got Up and down so we the reason you brought it

22:45 on school. We drove on it.

22:48 Yeah, yeah, yeah, so so here again We look we look through this as the chief minister's office Yeah, the thing and the cabinet office is in here and then a random the outside are all the ministers

22:59 offices. So I'll take you through to mine and say as we walk in, I've got Prida Pace, which was sending a very clear, as soon as I took the over this office, I said, I need a photo. So that's

23:12 the Impex Gax gas side at night. I love it. I'd say when they come to visit until we have our photos taken in front of that, because to me it symbolizes, this was the start. Yeah. The start of

23:24 the future of gas. Oh, that's a great fit. Yeah Is it a picture? Is it a picture? It's a picture. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I remember years ago, when they were constructing it, and I was

23:38 running an engineering company, and they said, Oh, come across, Mark. And they took me and I was standing on their tanks. And I looked at it, I thought. 'Cause when you look from here across

23:48 it, you can't really see the site, the capacity of it. And I kept saying, Fifty billion dollars I when, What.

23:55 stood there, I realized where the future is. billion dollars looking around at this this it is massive as you as you can imagine and 50 billion dollars was in every pocket of that that construction

24:08 so I'm also the education minister so I get to get kids out work up here oh that's cool that's cool and one of this I think it's fantastic too oh that's awesome yeah so this is my office and here you

24:21 go

24:23 presenting you with your own Hawthorne jumper that way I don't know you're coming in so I thought I don't have to send it so there is your Hawthorne indigenous round jumper nice this is cool yeah got

24:36 the ads on all the sponsors perfect yeah so every year they come out with we have the indigenous round across the across Australia and they create their their own designs based on some of the some of

24:50 the players who have connection to this connections right they design it for them

24:57 This was the one that was designed for. This is very cool, I appreciate this so much. So you have to wear that on one of your podcasts when I come on, it's. Absolutely, I'll wear it tomorrow

25:06 night when I make Underwood take me to the game. Absolutely, that'd be fantastic. So yeah, so we have some artwork sort of potted around that this is some of the local stuff, but this one to me

25:20 has some semblance of, it's not a, it's a print, being a Scotsman, and you'd appreciate this when you kicked out the English. And you had your celebration yesterday of kicking out the English.

25:34 This is the declaration of our growth in Scotland. So all of the clan leaders, that's all their marks, they're signed. And it's a document that's held in Scotland. Basically said, no, we're

25:46 gonna be in independent countries. The first declaration of our growth was about Scottish independence and said, England, you can go back to where you came from, Scotland is going to be an

25:56 independent country and all these. the planet, they all lost their life because they publicly admitted and the English came and just killed them all.

26:05 Oh wow. So normally we have all the kids up here because they can't be heard in there. But yeah, we have a mace, a gold mace, it sits there and points towards the government with a crayon. And

26:18 that used to be

26:20 Carrie Burke, what they call the Sergeant of Arm, to protect the speaker Because the speaker in years gone by back in 13 hundreds, most of them used to lose their head, because everyone hated them.

26:34 The elected members hated them, because they were seen as Patsy for the king, going a point of them, or the queen. And the king hated them, because he was the person to take up the bills to the

26:46 king to put in laws. Right. The king generally didn't want, because he made the laws, he contracts, so he normally killed them too had this big mace and that was to hip people away. And the

26:58 speaker also used to carry a sword, because if he was attacked on his chair, he was fighting him off. Right. We don't do that anymore,

27:08 but. It's good to have that capability. Absolutely, if you need it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we have the, obviously, the coat of arms behind the speaker's chair. And it's all filmed, Olga's

27:19 live, the speaker's got a great chair because he's got a button that can turn off every microphone Oh, look good. So

27:29 as soon as the market for all the RG Baji stops, because they all go, what's going on here? Now, do you sit like by parties? Yeah, okay. So government have all of these seats, Iraq plus one,

27:43 currently.

27:45 Independence have three, and then the opposition have seven So it's got

27:53 the government, and we've finished our last sitings for this assembly. So every assembly is called, this were up to the 14th assembly, which goes for four years. These books are records of the

28:06 assembly, they're called handsard. So everything said through these microphones is recorded forever on that book. You can't, even the speaker can't say, get rid of that.

28:18 So you have to be very careful what you say.

28:22 Even though within this building, you have what they call parliamentary privilege So you can't be sued or taken a court for what you say or you can stand up and accuse anyone of anything. Yep. And

28:34 you're protected? I love watching Parliament

28:39 in Great Britain, 'cause we get that on BBC and I hear it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Way more eloquent than our politicians.

28:50 Well, one of the interesting, speaker there, Lindsey, I don't know how he does his job, 'cause their palm, as you've seen, are just rows of seats opposite each other, and the independent sort

29:03 of sit at the end, there's 260 odd seats, but they've got 600 politicians across the country, so not everyone can get in there. They're actually, they take turns in coming in. And then they roll

29:16 out, that's great. And he stands most of the time and yells about this, and I'm like, nah, I can't do that. But basically, if I want your attention and you don't give it to me, you're going

29:28 out. That's so cool. Yeah. So those boxes traditionally were where any bills passed were taken to the king. So that was, and for us, they're taken to the administrator who writes them into more,

29:43 a sense of into more. But how often are people actually in here? So our parliament probably doesn't sit as often. It sits every month, but it sits for three days a month. following month, six

29:58 days. So it only sits for like 37 or 35 days a year. Well, you know, this is crazy in the state of Texas, unless the government chooses to put the house

30:12 and they only meet for 60 days every other year. Oh, today? Yeah. Oh, wow. As Texans are really scared of government, you know, because we were allowed to write our Constitution after the

30:25 Civil War, but we weren't allowed to hold office. Right. So we created the weakest state government on the planet because we didn't want those damn Yankees telling us what to do, you know. So did,

30:37 so in practice, what does that look like? Do they not sit for one year and sit or do they split them in two or they do? So they're always kind of running around Austin, but if you're a, if you're

30:49 a member of the house, a state representative, I mean, it's a part-time job. You're a full-time lawyer. injured broker.

30:59 Yeah, you'll just meet for 60 days. Now, if they need to have a special session, the governor will call it. And it seems like that happens more and more these days. But yeah, and then Senate's

31:10 the same way. They're in session 60, 60 days every other year. So none of us can have other jobs. Okay. They're all full. We love corruption Very cool.

31:25 But so you can't, I can't even have shares in gas. Really? Yeah. So and that's all stipulated by code of conduct. Whereas I look at

31:37 it and it's my own personal view, but obviously I line to whatever what the rules are. I look at it and I go, if I'm investing in the stock market in beat alone, I'm supporting territory industry

31:50 with my own money Right, right, sorry, um. This is crazy. In the United States and the federal government, Congress has actually exempted from insider trading laws. So they'll have a session on

32:05 something where the FDA is gonna approve a drug and they go buy the stock. Oh wow, I didn't know that. Wow. How can we do that? Oh, so there's actually

32:18 a stock fund that watches Nancy Pelosi, the former Speaker of the House, they watch her trades and they make the same trades she does. And they report

32:30 it 'cause basically the way they try to monitor it in the United States is forced disclosure. You can do it, but you gotta tell us. You tell us, yeah. You gotta tell everybody else, but yeah, I

32:39 mean, tweet will go out. Nancy Pelosi just bought in video again, so buy in video, and when you look at her track record of trading, she's the greatest investor on the planet Well, it's always

32:51 like, is it Warren Buffett or is it Nancy Pelosi? Oh, I didn't know that. That is amazing. Oh, it's crazy. It's insane. Yeah. Yeah. So there's the, again, the corners of the, the zone

33:03 with the bonds. And if you come this way, you get a really good view of the whole Darwin harbor and the LNG that's going on. So at the moment, there's the Darwin LNG plant over here's the Impex

33:17 plant, and they're doing some dredging at the moment for the Barossa, for Santos's Barossa pipeline, to be coming in on shore. Yeah, so there's a whole heap of boats out here involved in that.

33:30 This is one over there involved in dredging the harbor to be laying there pipeline. Which, which way is north? Like me or two, myself? That

33:42 way. That way. Okay. I got it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah But and so you get the administrators house here, which is the original. He's that like our governor. Okay. representative of the king at the

33:56 moment. So he's got a beautiful home down there, which survived bombing of Darwin. So it's, it's quite unusual that that did because everything else was obliterated. But yeah, and we have some,

34:10 probably some partners, some stuff down there that commemorates again the bombing of Darwin because this was the front line of it. They basically came off shore right across the water here is there

34:22 are a lot of American Australian vessels that are sunk in a harbour. Include there's also Japanese sub, which is and know that obviously times have moved and we're all very much allies in that space

34:38 now. There's something I often talk to, whether Japanese ambassador or visitors from Japan about we look after your fallen as well as we look after our own. They're in a harbour, they're part of

34:54 us now. And whether it's the American naval ship that was out there. And, yeah, so there's a lot of connection. And that's why every year, it's the falling into fear. Up here is such an

35:08 important day for us and for our community. I mean, we still, all Americans

35:16 well up with a little tear to on Pearl Harbor Day. Yeah, yeah, yeah And the crazy thing about it, you know, because I've been spending more time in Europe just because Lauren and I've been dating

35:27 and we'll use London. It's kind of a hub, we'll run over to Amsterdam or whatever. I mean, oh, that's a 75, 80 years ago. It wasn't that long ago. It wasn't that long ago, wasn't it? It

35:37 wasn't that long ago. Exactly. Yeah. And that's why, as you said before, you can see the remnants of these buildings that are just peppered with the bullets And you know, I don't know if you've

35:51 been to Berlin. But part of the post-war stuff in Berlin and Germany is to rebuild some of their stuff as it was. Right. It's the only thing I'd sort of draw the line a little bit because I look at

36:06 it and I go, it actually wasn't that great. It was dark, it was drab, it was really like 1930s design. Right. You probably had an opportunity here to change it But there are some significant

36:22 parts of Berlin, which at Berlin is one of these crazy towns I reckon that's cutting edge as far as

36:30 community and young people and arts and all that sort of stuff. And it probably fits that environment. I've just never been there when it hasn't rained

36:40 The interesting thing that I

36:44 saw with Berlin is even today the buildings.

36:52 That's one of the things that we talked about as Americans was just the powerful images of the Nazi party, you know? And so we had a famous American filmmaker, Frank Capra, and FDR, our president,

37:06 went to Frank and said, Hey, I need some movies to rally the American people. And so he watched the German propaganda films, and he said, Just show that. And that's what they did. And the last

37:17 line after showing all that was, This is why we have to go fight And everybody kind of got it. You still feel that walking around. I forget what the buildings are, the right side. The various

37:28 buildings, I was just kind of like on the hand. Yeah. And post that, the Berlin Wall and whatever, you see the remnants of that. And you think, what this place looked like just in that initial

37:42 20 years post-war, and in the Cold War. And

37:48 the fact that families were just over there, And there's just this random line was born by someone they had no connection with or whatever, to divvy this all up because it was expedient at the time

38:01 as well. And you go, there's hope for communities because it's communities that changed that. It's communities that brought that down.

38:11 Yeah, there was politics talking and government sort of it. Volberchop, bring that book, pull down that. Well, all those famous stakes there. But I think it probably had more to do with people

38:21 partying around the wall, standing on the wall. And governments who suppress

38:29 can't do it forever. Yeah. Because people get sick of it and see if we rise up against it. I think

38:36 there's been yankier against what I was talking about. Oh, well, Ronald Reagan won the Cold War. I think it was Levi jeans. I think it was MTV, Coca-Cola. 'Cause I mean, if you're a Russian

38:47 and you're seeing people in Levi jeans having a Coca-Cola, You're like, I want that. Oh, you absolutely want that. And as you can imagine nowadays, it's now at this stage that that is on your

38:58 phone. Wherever you are, the people say, Oh, well, they've stopped in Chinese. No, they just go through their little VPNs and

39:09 they get it instantly. Yeah, everybody knows now. And,

39:14 you know, look, the communist regime and China's bad, evil and all that, a lot more responsive to people than it was 50 years ago. You know, yeah. Yeah, and you would have traveled a fair bit

39:26 and you know as well as I do. Wherever you go, people are people. They have the same challenges. They wanna, the best for their kids, they wanna educate their kids. They wanna, some have more

39:36 difficulty in doing that, but they all have the same ideals. Yeah. And I suppose the challenge is being able to find a way to do that, and for us, Everyone here's got the same ideals. that is

39:52 gas is mining. It's middle arm over there, which we look at here in 10, 15 years time. Again, it won't be dominated by impacts, so it'll be even bigger. The skyline across there is the

40:08 main hub for that, whether it's the new industries around the carbon capture and storage and utilisation, whether it's that, because that's what I often say. We've got some of the smartest people

40:23 in the world, young people in the world, working in the mining industries and the gas industries, they'll come up with solutions and they have talked to it, CCS, and they'll make that work.

40:35 Because what won't happen is that people won't respond long-term to make sure your kids go around and turn your lights off, so you're saving energy. No, no. People's behaviour doesn't change

40:48 unless they have to. No, that's exactly right. And the thing I've always said, I always say, look, we ignore climate change at our own peril, we need to be watching it and all. Also, the

41:02 United States, I've always said this, we do day-to-day horrible, we're not very good at that, but you throw a crisis at us, we're really good. That's right. You throw the Nazis at us, we got

41:10 this, you know? I said, well, we'll figure it out, you know? 'Cause the thing that's crazy is, you know, we've gone from, call it 300 parts per million, 425 parts per million to 425 parts

41:23 per million. If we get really good at it, and we go back towards 250 or 200 parts per million, life stops on the planet. So we gotta be really careful here in terms of, yeah, thinking this one

41:36 through, so. Now, exactly right, but as I said, I've got a huge belief in the future and the kids and their intellect and the fact that when we're long gone, I'll be dealing with issues that we

41:50 won't even imagine. and they'll be coming up with solutions because they're friggin' smart. Well, the other aspect of it is that, and the UN did some work before, but what they do talk about,

41:60 particularly for communities that are still impoverished and still fit, the best thing they can do is educate their girls. Yeah. Because you build the education of their girls, you build a whole

42:13 resilience to them being in places or in situations that's detrimental and then contributing, that really, if they're not educated, push them down. So it talks about a lot of those communities

42:26 that the best thing we can do is ensure that girls can educate them. Because the boys will get educated. They'll follow up, but the girls need to be educated. Yeah, that's really interesting that

42:36 when you start talking through steps to get out of poverty, when women don't have to walk five miles for water, that's almost like step one. That's attacking right. Getting people out of poverty.

42:48 Absolutely, 101, isn't it? It's um, zai. But yeah, I look back to where we started and how we came in, and you know, here I am privileged white person, privileged white male, coming from, I

43:04 don't know if you've ever read a book called Angela's Ashes, which is Frank McCourt, who tells the story of growing up in Ireland. Now, many of the things he talks about, that was Arthur Glasgow

43:18 growing up, but we just thought it was normal. We didn't look, and his sort of view is that things were tough there, and when we go, no, no, we were washed in the sink, in the big concrete

43:31 sink, as little as a bath. We had to go out and get the coal, we had to do all that sort of stuff, and the health things that were going on, you experienced all those, those, and then you fast

43:45 forward, 45, 50 years. I'm looking at his name. Look at. when you call it football scores on our phone. I mean it's crazy. It's crazy watching the world advance. So you wonder where it's going

43:58 to go in that next 50 years because the the rate will change. I think they talked with the rate of change in the last 10 years as comparable to the other last 20 years as comparable to the last 500

44:12 in its speed of change. Yeah. So yeah. Exactly. where you were cold to show us all those awesome ideas.